Legislature(2023 - 2024)DAVIS 106

04/26/2023 08:00 AM House EDUCATION

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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+= HB 105 SEX/REPRODUCTION EDUCATION; SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 105(EDC) Out of Committee
+= HB 106 TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT TELECONFERENCED
Moved HB 106 Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+= HB 111 EDUCATION FOR DEAF & HEARING IMPAIRED TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
          HB 106-TEACHER RECRUITMENT; LUMP SUM PAYMENT                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:51:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced  that the next order  of business would                                                               
be HOUSE BILL NO. 106, "An  Act authorizing lump sum payments for                                                               
certain  teachers as  retention and  recruitment incentives;  and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:51:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  opened  public  testimony on  HB  106.    After                                                               
ascertaining  no  one  wished  to   testify,  she  closed  public                                                               
testimony.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:52:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  acknowledged   missing  the  amendment                                                               
deadline but said  she had prepared a conceptual  amendment to HB
106.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:52:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 8:52 a.m. to 8:54 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:54:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 1                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:54:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:54:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  wished  to  incorporate  the  language                                                               
about allowing Legislative Legal  Services to make any conforming                                                               
changes.  She added that Amendment  1 makes the lump sum payments                                                               
a permanent  feature of the system.   It removes the  three years                                                               
and makes  it wide open that  teachers who commit to  teaching in                                                               
Alaska would receive the payments without an end date, she said.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:55:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY  noted  that  Conceptual  Amendment  1  may                                                               
dramatically change the fiscal note.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:55:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT stated that there is not a fiscal note.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:56:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HEIDI TESHNER,  Acting Commissioner, Department of  Education and                                                               
Early  Development  (DEED),   answered  questions  regarding  the                                                               
discussion on  a fiscal note.   She  said that $57.9  million per                                                               
year is the grant funding total for the teacher incentive pay.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:56:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT  explained  that  the  purpose  of  the                                                               
amendment is  to take a good  idea and make it  a permanent idea.                                                               
It  is known  that the  state is  not competitive  in its  pay to                                                               
teachers, and it  is one way to  increase the pay and  to keep it                                                               
there.   Her concern  with the  bill, she  said, is  the existing                                                               
retirement system  not requiring  people to  stay more  than five                                                               
years, and having this incentive  for only three years is another                                                               
way to support teachers.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:57:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCKAY  recalled that the  purpose of the  bill was                                                               
to do a  pilot program for three years and  determine whether the                                                               
raises had an effect on retention.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHNER  responded that is correct.   The intent of  the bill                                                               
was to  create a study  to see if  it is something  that improves                                                               
retention.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:58:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY offered  her  opinion that  the ability  to                                                               
raise  teacher pay  and keep  that going  is something  very much                                                               
needed.  She confirmed her support for the amendment.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:59:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  RUFFRIDGE appreciated  the amendment;  however, HB  106                                                               
was  designed to  be  a pilot  program,  and it  may  not be  the                                                               
appropriate way  to raise pay for  teachers.  He stated  he would                                                               
not support the amendment.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT asked Ms. Teshner  how it would be known                                                               
whether the three-year incentive worked or not.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. TESHER responded  it would be learned through  the process of                                                               
the data collected and then reporting it out.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:01:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX  offered his  opinion that it  is not  a good                                                               
idea to negotiate salaries through the "central authority."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:02:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  ALLARD  pointed  out  that when  unions  are  involved,                                                               
salaries are not negotiated for  the teachers, it is done through                                                               
the school districts.   She offered her belief  that is something                                                               
individual  districts   must  do,  and  although   she  supported                                                               
incentives, she stated the bill is good as-is.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:02:25 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   HIMSCHOOT   stated   that   perhaps   Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 could  have been a little different,  but her concern                                                               
is that there  is no fiscal note  or study at the end.   She said                                                               
it  seemed like  a good  idea to  provide this  incentive so  the                                                               
districts could use it as a recruiting tool.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:02:58 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:03:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and  Story voted in  favor of Conceptual  Amendment 1.                                                               
Representatives Prax, McKay, Allard,  and Ruffridge voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 1  failed to be adopted by a                                                               
vote of 3-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:03:42 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:03 a.m. to 9:04 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:04:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  moved to  adopt Conceptual  Amendment 2                                                               
to HB 106.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:04:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX objected.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HIMSCHOOT spoke  to amendment  2 and  related her                                                               
experiences  as a  teacher.   She said  in addition  to teachers,                                                               
there are  shortages in support  staff; therefore, she  wanted to                                                               
open the idea up to include paraprofessionals and support staff.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:05:31 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCKAY opined  that the  proposed amendment  was a                                                               
similar problem  to Conceptual  Amendment 1 in  that there  is no                                                               
fiscal note to estimate additional costs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:05:54 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY offered  her belief that it  is an important                                                               
part  of  the  puzzle  for  students  doing  very  well  to  have                                                               
consistent help through support staff.   She opined it would be a                                                               
good  incentive and  investment  in Alaska's  resources for  this                                                               
amendment, even though the fiscal note would increase.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:06:28 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PRAX  commented   that  adding  paraprofessionals                                                               
increases the risk of getting nothing "if we push too far."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:07:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  offered her  insight that the  best way                                                               
to  increase  salaries  is  an   increase  in  the  base  student                                                               
allocation (BSA),  but since that is  uncertain, this [amendment]                                                               
is one  way to make  sure staff are  incentivized to stay  and it                                                               
would  increase recruitment  for districts.   She  brought up  an                                                               
example of  when the  Department of  Law (DOL)  did a  20 percent                                                               
increase,  and they  now  have  the lowest  vacancy  rate of  any                                                               
department; therefore, incentives work.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:08:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PRAX maintained his objection.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:08:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll   call  vote  was  taken.     Representatives  McCormick,                                                               
Himschoot, and  Story voted in  favor of Conceptual  Amendment 2.                                                               
Representatives Allard, Prax, McKay,  and Ruffridge voted against                                                               
it.  Therefore, Conceptual Amendment 2  failed to be adopted by a                                                               
vote of 3-4.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:08:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR RUFFRIDGE moved  to report HB 106 out  of committee with                                                               
individual recommendations and the accompanying fiscal notes.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:09:01 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCORMICK objected.   He  stated he  supported HB
106, but offered his belief that  it is not a good replacement to                                                               
increase  the BSA.   He  added  that in  Bethel, he  was told  by                                                               
educators it  was something they  did not want; they  wanted good                                                               
benefits and an increase to the BSA.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCORMICK removed his objection.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:09:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  STORY  objected.    She  mirrored  Representative                                                               
McCormick's  comments that  it should  not be  a replacement  for                                                               
funding  the BSA.   She  said  that working  conditions are  very                                                               
important  for   Alaska's  teachers   and  students   to  thrive;                                                               
therefore, we must keep up  with increasing costs, which also has                                                               
a  lot to  do  with local  control.   She  briefly mentioned  the                                                               
practices other states have attempted to adopt.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE STORY removed her objection.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:12:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT  stated that  her objection lies  in the                                                               
fact  this  creates  a  difficult  position to  be  in,  and  she                                                               
acknowledges that teachers are underpaid  and any time there is a                                                               
chance to  increase their salaries,  it should  be done.   On the                                                               
other hand,  she said, a way  to do that  is to fund the  BSA and                                                               
provide increases on a regular basis  to fund the schools and the                                                               
salaries.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:12:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD offered  her support for teachers  and added that                                                               
there  is  no  guarantee  that the  BSA  would  increase  teacher                                                               
salaries;  that  is up  to  their  individual unions  and  school                                                               
boards.  She said she believed  this increase is an incentive and                                                               
recruitment tool,  as stated in  the bill, and reiterated  she is                                                               
in strong support of HB 106.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:13:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT maintained her objection.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:23 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A  roll call  vote  was taken.    Representatives Story,  Allard,                                                               
Prax, McCormick,  McKay, Himschoot, and Ruffridge  voted in favor                                                               
of  HB 106.   Therefore,  HB 106  was reported  out of  the House                                                               
Education Standing Committee by a vote of 7-0.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:14:20 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:14 a.m. to 9:15 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:15:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR ALLARD announced that HB 106 passed from committee.                                                                    

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB105 Amendment 2.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 4.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 3.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB 105 CS VerB.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105
HB105 Amendment 1.pdf HEDC 4/26/2023 8:00:00 AM
HB 105